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Keskustelua paikkakunnittain => Helsinki/pääkaupunkiseutu => Aiheen aloitti: XGT90 - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 15:49:22

Otsikko: Unequal access to services
Kirjoitti: XGT90 - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 15:49:22
Hi,

Any tips on landing paid dates with local beauties. I always introduce myself, service I'd like to pay for, time and date etc. The exchange almost always turns and feels like an interview afterwards. I understand the safety aspect of the service provider but a clear lack of Finnish language skills and where am from always kills the deal. Some rejections come from some that can actually write quite decent english or are they on google translate. Any experiences from other silent english speakers? 😄
Otsikko: Vs: Unequal access to services
Kirjoitti: Mmnaaz - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 16:26:25
It depends to service providers, I have been to many Finnish Beauties that accept foriegners and also speak good english.
@AnnaVonB I personally recommend her. She is young beauty early 30’s. Then there are others also in the Business that do not treat unequal.
Check RE also. You can find others too
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Kirjoitti: XGT90 - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 16:33:13
@Mmnaaz thanks for the tip. Appreciate it. Not sure if rules allow mentioning of the names though...  :drinking: :headbang:
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Kirjoitti: AnnaB - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 16:54:35
It depends to service providers, I have been to many Finnish Beauties that accept foriegners and also speak good english.
@AnnaVonB I personally recommend her. She is young beauty early 30’s. Then there are others also in the Business that do not treat unequal.
Check RE also. You can find others too

I'm 41! Thank you for recommending me Mmnaaz 😘.

I take bookings from men who speak good English or fluent Finnish. I don't take bookings from men who send "hi u free" messages or men who use Google translate to write in Finnish.
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Kirjoitti: Mmnaaz - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 17:41:52
Sorry My bad. It was typo. Yes early 40’s.
P.s
The chemistry she creates and time spent, every minutes considered well.
So age doesn’t matter though.
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Kirjoitti: XGT90 - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 19:40:01
Thanks for the answers. Are there others open to meet a decent and courteous paying english speakers ;D?
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Kirjoitti: AnnaB - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 19:56:57
@Mmnaaz thanks for the tip. Appreciate it. Not sure if rules allow mentioning of the names though...  :drinking: :headbang:

Mentioning names is not banned in the rules.
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Kirjoitti: XGT90 - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 20:14:00
Ok. I assumed the service providers stage name/pseudonym discloses part of the providers identity which some might not entertain for privacy reasons.
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Kirjoitti: JämeräpartainenInsinööri - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 20:31:45
Ok. I assumed the service providers stage name/pseudonym discloses part of the providers identity which some might not entertain for privacy reasons.

This website has an "introduction thread for service providers", where service providers can introduce themselves. (https://www.seksisaitti.net/index.php/topic,62.0.html)

I would assume that referring to a service provider, who has introduced her (or his) stage name/pseudonym in this site, in that thread, would be acceptable, on this site.

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Kirjoitti: AnnaB - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 20:34:06
I'm not sure if I understand what you GXT90 mean, but naming stage names /nicknames is not banned, doxing and naming legal names is banned of course.

Some service providers don't like being mentioned here at all, and have prohibited all reviews on here, but others are ok with it. Those who are active on this platform, like I, usually don't mind being mentioned especially when it's a recommendation.
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Kirjoitti: XGT90 - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 20:42:31
Thanks. Great Info and valuable link for the intro chain. One last bit, is it allowed to contact the service provider through this site i.e. private message?

"Information is the oil of the 21st century. Analytics is the combustion engine." - Peter Sondergaard.
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Kirjoitti: JohnnyDick - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 21:00:38
So going back to original reason for this thread. I have been in contact with many and then met some of the girls here.  None of finnish providers sadly. Well, some are too pricey and some are not my type. So far i heard only once that finnish men were preferred. Few girls refused me because they were of the same nationality as me.(One of eastern European countries). My guess is they don't want to risk meeting me outside work ;) it's a small country after all.
Some girls prefer customers from the same, lets say, ethnic background. Reasons behind it are their own.
Most of them really like cultured communication so this i think is a skill that is worthy to have.
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Kirjoitti: XGT90 - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 21:10:22
@JohnnyDick, to be honest I've always preferred Finnish women. Certainly not all. The reasons can qualify for a masters dissertation  :). Would you mind to expound on the meaning of "cultured communication"?
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Kirjoitti: AnnaB - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 21:34:53
Thanks. Great Info and valuable link for the intro chain. One last bit, is it allowed to contact the service provider through this site i.e. private message?

"Information is the oil of the 21st century. Analytics is the combustion engine." - Peter Sondergaard.


It's allowed to contact through private messages, but it's not allowed to say "please contact me" in a post. I suggest a polite approach of course and ask in a private message what is the correct way to contact for bookings. I don't know about others but I usually give my email/Whatsapp details and ask to continue the conversation there when someone contacts me in private messages.
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Kirjoitti: XGT90 - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 21:39:21
Kiitoksia. Thanks alot.  ;)
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Kirjoitti: JämeräpartainenInsinööri - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 21:41:33
I don't know about others but I usually give my email/Whatsapp details and ask to continue the conversation there when someone contacts me in private messages.

I don't know if I qualify as one of the others  ;D, but the same holds true for me.

Also, it is possible to send direct mail to those members (without going through the "private" messages) who have enabled mail as a contact form.
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Kirjoitti: JohnnyDick - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 21:43:50
@JohnnyDick, to be honest I've always preferred Finnish women. Certainly not all. The reasons can qualify for a masters dissertation  :). Would you mind to expound on the meaning of "cultured communication"?
Well for me that's obvious how to behave but from what i learned there is a really big group of men who cannot treat a sexworker like a person. Be nice and respectful and use full sentences. Some girls make it obvious that treating them like a peace of meat is not well received. "Wanna fuck you" or god forbid sending them dick pick is not a good conversation starter for most of them.
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Kirjoitti: Kalamaja - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 22:03:35
The girls usually mention in their ads if they speak English and if they receive non-Finnish customers and sometimes a part of an ad is written in English. It the ad is only in Finnish, then it usually means they might not feel comfortable of receiving foreigners / non-Finnish speakers as customers.

But as always, there's no shame in asking.
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Kirjoitti: AnnaB - Heinäkuu 10, 2025, 22:20:50
Sometimes I have "also in English" on my ad, but mostly I don't because I'm sic of the "hi" messages from men who don't know how to write complete sentences in English. Usually they only know how to haggle. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who does that.
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Kirjoitti: Sointu Sulotar BBW - Heinäkuu 11, 2025, 09:35:49
XGT90, I'm sorry to hear about your experiences being often ignored or faced elusived interaction by service providers. It must feel unfair and hurtful.

Naturally I can speak from only my point of view, but I try to shed a little more lights on this matter.

We're working here in a field where risk management is crucial from service providers' point of view. Every time meeting a new client various risks are taken, from the most obvious ones to experiencing mutual discomfort and akwardness.

To make sure that the encounters are as comfortable and pleasure for both parties as possible, the mutual interaction must work. Here comes the language barrier, that can be a deal breaker. I follow the same principle as AnnaB,  I take bookings with dates who speak good English or fluent Finnish. This doesn't mean I'd rank potential dates by their language skills or would like to ignore someone because of their cultural background. The key element is to make sure that potential dates and I understand each other easily.

The encounters we here refer to are intimate and sensitive, and to build up a comfortable atmosphere in a very short period of time the communication must work. This is both for my own safety, I need to be able to trust that my wishes and personal boundaries are respected what means they need to be fully understood. And this is also for the clients' pleasure, I need to be aware of their do's and don'ts in able to provide as pleasurable encounter as possible.

The principle of fluent communication concerns also Finnish speakers. As AnnaB described "hi u free" kind of guys are the type that get usually ignored. That kind of messaging isn't something I would consider satisfying level of communication, what is crucial for an enjoyable encounter. You wouldn't believe how typical "how much?", "free tonight" type of messages are.

I wish you'll find service providers with whom it's easy to communicate with, and who can offer everything you're looking for.
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Kirjoitti: browncocktales - Heinäkuu 11, 2025, 09:45:38
I mostly use Google translate to write in Finnish. Sometimes it works sometimes doesn't. But it's worth keep trying. Be polite and respectful  :headphones:
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Kirjoitti: FortySexN2 - Heinäkuu 11, 2025, 09:49:51
It's often hard to use local escorts in many countries if you don't speak the local language. For example, in Japan it was basically impossible to arrange anything online. I guess part of the reason is the risk of misunderstandings in English, and another is the fear of not knowing how to properly interact or behave with the escort according to local customs.
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Kirjoitti: IntohimonTuulia - Heinäkuu 11, 2025, 14:11:42
Great discussion about a difficult topic! Like a couple of service providers have pointed out in this thread, the most important thing when picking a customer based on their e-mail/message is my estimate if I will feel safe communicating and having sex with that person. I’m happy to meet people of all ethnicities but they must speak one of the languages I speak (Finnish, Swedish or English). Other than that the same rules apply for my clients: present yourself, tell me what you want, accept the prices and my conditions, suggest a time for the date and show up when the time is due.
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Kirjoitti: AnnaB - Heinäkuu 11, 2025, 14:26:54
I mostly use Google translate to write in Finnish. Sometimes it works sometimes doesn't. But it's worth keep trying. Be polite and respectful  :headphones:

What about when you meet in person? Can you carry a conversation in English or Finnish? If you can, using Google translate is fine, but if you can't, then what you're doing is fraud. You are purposefully misleading the service provider.

For me it is absolutely mandatory to be able to speak and understand complete sentences in English or Finnish during the meeting otherwise I'm not comfortable and I can't enjoy what I'm doing if I don't feel safe. Language barrier is a safety risk and I'm not willing to take it.

Luckily Finnish is such a difficult language that google translate makes obvious mistakes and if I see those I won't answer because I know I'm being misled.
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Kirjoitti: browncocktales - Heinäkuu 12, 2025, 01:52:16
Once I get a reply, I ask the service provider if it's okay that I only speak English. If she says it's fine, then I’m good with it. Usually, most people speak at least a little English, and if they’re willing to meet me, that works for me.
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Kirjoitti: browncocktales - Heinäkuu 12, 2025, 01:58:45
I don’t mind if the service provider speaks broken English during the meeting. The reason I’m writing in Finnish is to make sure my message is clear—since Finnish is their native language, they might understand it better. Once we both understand what I’m looking for, and she’s okay with the fact that I only speak English and still wants to meet, then there shouldn’t be any problem.
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Kirjoitti: palvelunostaja - Heinäkuu 12, 2025, 05:22:08
If it‘s simply a matter of agreeing on prices and services, automated translation or AI can of course help. But if the sex worker needs to know whether they can trust you to be a serious person, that’s surely harder to do when they cannot even see your own words.

But good to hear it sometimes works. To echo FortySexN2, trying to find, let alone meet, local sex workers as a foreigner has often been quite frustrating for me too.
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Kirjoitti: Paroni - Heinäkuu 12, 2025, 08:33:13
None of finnish providers sadly. Well, some are too pricey and some are not my type.

What would you consider too pricey? Most Finnish girls are between 250-300e/h, some amateurs around 200.
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Kirjoitti: XGT90 - Heinäkuu 12, 2025, 10:32:20
I'd argue we don't hijack and turn the thread into a pricing debate. Best to stay with the original intent of the thread.
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Kirjoitti: AnnaB - Heinäkuu 12, 2025, 11:33:59
I'd argue we don't hijack and turn the thread into a pricing debate. Best to stay with the original intent of the thread.

I appreciate this! This site is full of pricing debates, one going on at the moment in another thread so if there's something to say it can be said there.