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Seksisaitti => In English => Aiheen aloitti: MichealChe - Marraskuu 09, 2021, 21:39:54

Otsikko: seeing foreign customer
Kirjoitti: MichealChe - Marraskuu 09, 2021, 21:39:54
Hei,

So I messaged a girl on Onlyfans, if I can see her if she visits Oulu and she replied that
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and I replied
But its really sad to hear that from you of all people that all foreigners are criminal. BTW, I am not looking for a response. Just wanted to you to know

and she replied
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did I understood her words wrong ??

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Edit: Private conversations ought to stay private.
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Kirjoitti: Seepeli - Marraskuu 09, 2021, 21:41:30
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did I understood her words wrong ??




Yes.
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Kirjoitti: MichealChe - Marraskuu 09, 2021, 21:45:41
how please explain.

she fears of her safety and she only sees native finnish
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Kirjoitti: Jimmy-setä - Marraskuu 09, 2021, 22:15:48
^ Minimizing risks doesn't mean that she thinks all foreigners are criminals.
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Kirjoitti: Vieras0242 - Marraskuu 09, 2021, 22:43:03
^ and how exactly is she minimizing risks? Because pure Finnish bloodline is a guarantee of good manners?
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Kirjoitti: MichealChe - Marraskuu 09, 2021, 22:56:10
Thank you. About minimizing risk. Her response reminded me of Donald Trump. He once said this about Mexicans.
“They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

And when they ask him if it was racist he said , well Im not racist because I said “I assume some are good people”

I
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Kirjoitti: jpetke - Marraskuu 09, 2021, 23:07:47
There is not really a point trying to get an explaining for rules. If someone wants to meet only Finnish people, she has every right to do so. The reason is not important.
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Kirjoitti: Vieras0242 - Marraskuu 09, 2021, 23:12:13
I don’t think anyone is claiming that she doesn’t have the right to choose her customers - at least I’m not. I don’t think every woman wants to have sex with me either. But it’s difficult to understand her message any other way than the way MichaelChe did.
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Kirjoitti: MichealChe - Marraskuu 09, 2021, 23:17:26
Thank you M15t3rG for your response. and I agree with you. She has every right to choose her customers.

For jpetke, Please check the message I wrote to her saying that she has every right to choose. What I don't seem to understand is her response "you understood my words very wrong" How can I understand it any other way.
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Kirjoitti: jpetke - Marraskuu 09, 2021, 23:28:58
One reason for not seeing foreing customers might be that she is not so fluent in English. So I don't see the point trying to analyze her answer in such detail.
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Kirjoitti: Vieras0260 - Marraskuu 09, 2021, 23:32:13
Finland is a small country, and it is quite simple to track every Finnish national here, if something bad would happen. At least the police will find them with a very good accuracy. This might not apply to foreign passport carrying people.

There might also be some difference how men from different cultures treat women. Some girls say that they only meet European customers, some only Nordic, some are not meeting any from Middle East etc. In Nordic countries there has been some kind of equality of men and women for decades, and maybe the girls are afraid, that this principle is not respected by foreign men. Because even the sexworkers have the same human rights.

And this is not to say that most of the foreign men residing in Finland would not respect the equality and behave like gentlemen. But I think the fear of this is behind those rules of the girls.

But what I have read & heard, it is very difficult for a western gentleman to get laid in Japan. There might be similar fears behind this. So let’s fly to Thailand ;D
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Kirjoitti: MichealChe - Marraskuu 09, 2021, 23:35:25
One reason for not seeing foreing customers might be that she is not so fluent in English. So I don't see the point trying to analyze her answer in such detail.

She has video in perfect english so that's not it. There is a saying that goes. If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

I think its better to call it as it is.
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Kirjoitti: Azazello - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 00:01:44
This is sensitive matter. Sexworkers have undeniable right to choose their customers. Like MisterG said about himself most probably I am too not able to get laid with every woman. Not even sexworkers. Especially if i introduce myself with my nick here. I’ve been in Japan and got paid pussy only from Korean ladies.

I think that it’s not too much to expect to formulate rejection phrase to a bit more respectful form.
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Kirjoitti: Pukumies40 - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 00:08:48
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

I think its better to call it as it is.
So you are calling her a duck now? :O
I think you just proved her point. You are a very unpolite and disrespectful man and she was wise to reject you.
You are calling women names online even before meeting them.  :-\
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Kirjoitti: Pekonen - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 00:23:29
^ Minimizing risks doesn't mean that she thinks all foreigners are criminals.
That explains exactly  where you got it wrong.
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Kirjoitti: Unilukkari - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 06:34:55
I think she gave you an argument without wishing to start one.

Can you dig it? If no, you discarded.
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Kirjoitti: Seepeli - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 07:00:09
Very good points mentioned yet i think there was a misunderstanding between MichealChe and the lady.

It is very difficult to explain what someone else might have been thinking. So lets focus only on words. She did not used the word criminal.

For some reasons beyond my understanding MichealChe like to use that word.

Generally speaking, quite often when people are referring to a sitation with different words, they have understood it differently.


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Kirjoitti: Vieras0242 - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 07:36:45
^ so if someone told you that she is not willing to meet you for safety reasons, what would you assume the reason is? Because you’re violent in a non-criminal way? The same way that all people of your ethnicity are?

The point is - if you don’t want to be labeled as prejudiced, don’t talk and act like one (the Trump reference earlier). As Azazello wrote earlier, there are more elegant ways of communicating who you would like to meet, or not meet. Unless you really think that you need to be afraid for your safety for ethnic reasons. And what she wrote sounded a bit like that.
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Kirjoitti: Unilukkari - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 08:35:51
^ so if someone told you that she is not willing to meet you for safety reasons, what would you assume the reason is? Because you’re violent in a non-criminal way? The same way that all people of your ethnicity are?

The point is - if you don’t want to be labeled as prejudiced, don’t talk and act like one (the Trump reference earlier). As Azazello wrote earlier, there are more elegant ways of communicating who you would like to meet, or not meet. Unless you really think that you need to be afraid for your safety for ethnic reasons. And what she wrote sounded a bit like that.

She had no moral obligation to respond by giving any reasons for her refusal. So why the hell should we expect the reasons given to be exhaustive or make any sense at all?

It was not a debate - just a simple offer/reaction.

And pls, take your cheap education elsewhere. You assume things from that which explicitly is not made to statement. How futile is that?
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Kirjoitti: MichealChe - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 08:49:55
Unilukkari again, Don't jump into the conversation if you haven't seen the all discussion. LOOK at the first message,
I explicitly told her that she don't need to explain herself or give a response. The only things that bothered me is she told me that I took her words wrong.

But I guess you wouldn't understand. and btw you didn't answer the question from M15t3rG. How would you feel if someone told you that she don't see you because of safety reason ????
Anyways thank you for your answers to my question. I really appreciate it. No need to further discuss on this.
She has every right to reject me because I am a foreigner and I have every right to think she rejected because of a prejudice

 
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Kirjoitti: Jimmy-setä - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 08:50:38
^ and how exactly is she minimizing risks? Because pure Finnish bloodline is a guarantee of good manners?
Let's say that 1 out of 100 of native born Finns are criminals anf 2 out of 100 of foreigners living in Finland are criminals. By taking only native born Finns as customers you minimize risk of meeting potentially dangerous criminals.
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Kirjoitti: MichealChe - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 08:51:50
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

I think its better to call it as it is.
So you are calling her a duck now? :O
I think you just proved her point. You are a very unpolite and disrespectful man and she was wise to reject you.
You are calling women names online even before meeting them.  :-\

It is an expression. WHat the hell are you talking about. I didnt even tell you her name. Why the hell am I not meeting her. You just proved my point
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Kirjoitti: MichealChe - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 08:54:10
^ and how exactly is she minimizing risks? Because pure Finnish bloodline is a guarantee of good manners?
Let's say that 1 out of 100 of native born Finns are criminals anf 2 out of 100 of foreigners living in Finland are criminals. By taking only native born Finns as customers you minimize risk of meeting potentially dangerous criminals.

Where did you get that statistics ? do you have proof of this numbers ?? I am baffled by people thinking this logic is just normal.
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Kirjoitti: Jimmy-setä - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 09:14:23
^ and how exactly is she minimizing risks? Because pure Finnish bloodline is a guarantee of good manners?
Let's say that 1 out of 100 of native born Finns are criminals anf 2 out of 100 of foreigners living in Finland are criminals. By taking only native born Finns as customers you minimize risk of meeting potentially dangerous criminals.

Where did you get that statistics ? do you have proof of this numbers ?? I am baffled by people thinking this logic is just normal.
"Let's say." I don't know real stats. This might or might not be true. But we do know that foreign citizens are overrepresented in sexual crimes as offenders in Finland.
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Kirjoitti: Unilukkari - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 09:18:57
Unilukkari again, Don't jump into the conversation if you haven't seen the all discussion. LOOK at the first message,
I explicitly told her that she don't need to explain herself or give a response. The only things that bothered me is she told me that I took her words wrong.

But I guess you wouldn't understand. and btw you didn't answer the question from M15t3rG. How would you feel if someone told you that she don't see you because of safety reason ????
Anyways thank you for your answers to my question. I really appreciate it. No need to further discuss on this.
She has every right to reject me because I am a foreigner and I have every right to think she rejected because of a prejudice

Yep, I have about 0 percent interest of starting a role play here. My feelings shouldn't bother you as your's mean shit to me.

The only thing you manage to do here is to validate her point of not meeting you. You are repelling people by not accepting the reality of the game. What a wonderful client you would've been, not.

So, go and grow a couple.
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Kirjoitti: MichealChe - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 09:33:30
Unilukkari if you have 0 % interest starting a role play here why are you continuing discussion here ?????? why are you contradacting yourself. Your feeling is not bothering trust me.

And for you saying "So, go and grow a couple."


Oh trust me I have big one and you can see it in my profile. So my advice to you is go suck on it.

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Kirjoitti: Unilukkari - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 09:45:29
Unilukkari if you have 0 % interest starting a role play here why are you continuing discussion here ?????? why are you contradacting yourself. Your feeling is not bothering trust me.

And for you saying "So, go and grow a couple."


Oh trust me I have big one and you can see it in my profile. So my advice to you is go suck on it.

You high, man.
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Kirjoitti: Lifti - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 09:50:24
Nice dick man
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Kirjoitti: MichealChe - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 09:54:11
Lift, I agree it is toxic masculinity is a big problem. Let me close this discussion. Thank you for all your answers. It was helpful. Cheers. 
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Kirjoitti: Unilukkari - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 10:02:40
Lift, I agree it is toxic masculinity is a big problem. Let me close this discussion. Thank you for all your answers. It was helpful. Cheers.

And exactly that should have been your second mail to the whore.

See, growing a pair is not that hard.
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Kirjoitti: MichealChe - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 10:11:00
Unilukkari I understand your point. and Sorry for my earlier response. I shouldn't respond it to you or direct my anger toward you.

You have to understand, when someone reject you only based on your ethnicity, you really feel bad. Because someone can be violent regardless of his ethnicity.

Anyway Thank you all for your answers. And I really hope that none of you wont face. 
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Kirjoitti: Unilukkari - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 10:16:43
^ Trouble closing the discussion?

Anyhoes, she made the decision on the basis of what you were not - not on the basis of what you were. She didn't care the fuck about your ethnicity. You just weren't that what she had singed up to.

You can take those as my consoling words to you, buddy.
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Kirjoitti: MichealChe - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 10:24:05
Lets agree to disagree on that. if not this discussion wont end :)
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Kirjoitti: Kuningas - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 12:08:50
^ Trouble closing the discussion?

Anyhoes, she made the decision on the basis of what you were not - not on the basis of what you were. She didn't care the fuck about your ethnicity. You just weren't that what she had singed up to.

Sorry for continuing this discussion. You are missing the all point my friend. She refused to see him just because he is black.
 
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Kirjoitti: Lifti - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 12:14:05
^ and that is okey. She wasnt BBC lover.
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Kirjoitti: Kuningas - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 12:17:23
I guess you are right hahahaha

its ok to sometimes to dislike black person.
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Kirjoitti: Unilukkari - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 14:33:56
Sorry for continuing this discussion. You are missing the all point my friend. She refused to see him just because he is black.

And exactly which asshole did you pull that rabbit off from? I have not seen absolutely anything to that order from any of the posts before yours, including the non-redacted ones.
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Kirjoitti: Villerius - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 15:38:04
Popcorns are on table once again... :laught:
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Kirjoitti: Pekonen - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 16:18:25
Same here.
Unilukkari is just an asshole who only wants to irritate, just like me. But please continue.
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Kirjoitti: Kuningas - Marraskuu 10, 2021, 20:35:23
Unilukkari  She didn't see him its because he is black. She said that she only sees native finnish ie (White). if he was native finnish. I repeat NATIVE finnish means white, she would have seen if he was white.


I have seen so many sex workers ad saying. Only white finnish customers.